whether it be vernetix or interdigital, value of patents, we know that with motorola. it was bought by google because of the patents. how much should be be putting stock in your patents? >> we were issued our 83rd patent today. the communication space especially in voice is a patent minefield. there's a lot of ip out there, goes back to lucent and att and all of those big portfolios. the fact that we have been an i.t. company, we certainly don't have the thousands of patents that some of those entities have. it's enabled us to sell patents to some of the players out there. we do cross license exchanges. it's a vital part of our business, even though it may not show up on the top line every quarter. >> two nights ago we had mr. mewsi, he's the ceo of paychex, he's talking about how small business, how the formation is not good. how much is the -- does the pie heart? i know you're taking share in the pie. but the small business market is not growing in the company that we know of. >> fcc actually twice a year publishes access line data. the past two periods, access lines